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[...] Conceptual Poetry Conference: a poem w/constraint pt 2 (Day 3) Conceptual Poetry Conference: a poem w/constraint pt 1 (Days 1&2) Here therefore is The Constraint (known in publication practice as “the note”): type up word for word appropriated text as recorded in daybook at the Conceptual Poetry … [...]

By: artpredator

artpredator — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:46:32 +0000

good for you for even trying to tell people! i just let them dismiss it. this site is really for me to figure out how to do what i want to really do and to experiment and explore the form and what it offers. i really think this is a form of the future and not to dismiss your dad (i had to dismiss mine) and their desires for us to be financially overly sufficient but there is something important that is evolving here and it is beyond monetary gratification.

and while i would happily accept dark shadows offering coffee, i make an excellent cup and so would prefer dry martinis!

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:39:01 +0000

Have indeed bloggeby blogrolled your site. You are a rarity. Ever since I started playing with this machine I have been telling people, “I am not blogging, I am creating a single unified nonlinear multidimensional text (ie my site)” but most people just think I’m a wanker, hahaha. I may well be. But it’s nice to meet someone who understands and is attempting a similar thingy. I am off to work, have a strange day full of dark shadows flickering at the corners of your vision which turn out to be only waiters serving coffee,

By: artpredator

artpredator — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:50:50 +0000

thanks, Paul, for noticing how I constructed the series of posts on conceptual poetry! you also noticed that with the kyanite/night terrors posts.

as a blogger, I am conscious of how the site works that way, posts like windows that lead you outside or into other rooms, or to examine objects withing the room.

in fact, i am working on figuring out how I want to do a novel i wrote 20 years ago about backpacking from mexico to canada on the pacific crest trail–posting chapters bloglike even though blogs didn’t exist back then…

and back to your comment, yes, the “poem” then becomes all about the “idea” but that idea has to be delivered as a concrete object in order to be evaluated. it is the frame and the picture.

i think it ‘d be great to discuss this more here or elsewhere…i’m trying to get my head around it!

“tiny miracles of inexplicable joy” –love that…almost like they are around all the time and we notice them or not before they pop. i’m all for noticing!

ml, art predator

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:46:57 +0000

This is probably not the place to discuss the why of conceptual poetry or its limitations. The question to me is though when acting within this constraint of the overriding idea, doesnt the poem become just about the idea? Kind of like a frame without a picture? That’s just my impression and I don’t know anything at all about anything, I have no concepts, so don’t worry about it. It’s cool the way the blog scrolls back in time to the invitation and tells a story with changes of focus, so in a way the blog is the work of conceptual art framing the poems which frame, aragag I’m hungry, hope you are having a fantabulous day full of tiny miracles of inexplicable joy,